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Open your chakras with Ayron Jones returned to present his third album, "Child Of The State" which is out on vinyl!
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Before appearing on the Taratata stage (broadcast on February the 25th) which concretizes the release of "Child of the State" in vinyl format, Ayron Jones will have gone a long way! After having started to play in bars at the age of 19, the guitarist from Seattle is currently experiencing a growing popularity with the release of his third album, "Child Of The State". An interview dedicated to spirituality!

It's a real pleasure to meet you again, in our last interview we started by asking you what was the most frequently asked question, and you told us that people asked you how to pronounce your name. Is that still the case?
Ayron Jones: Yes!
Really ! Because your popularity has really gone up in the last 6 months! The feedback from your new album, "Child Of The State", which was released 6 months ago, has been outstanding. Your album has been at the top of many charts. How did you live these very good public reactions?
I was very touched by the way the album was welcomed. To get to this point, it has not been easy. I'm at the peak of my career right now, being at the top of the charts in many countries as you say. I'm very honoured by that. There are of course some critics, but all this is very subjective.
And by the way, how do you explain this sudden rise in popularity? Was there a turning point?
I think I found my sound.

So for you, it's not related to promotion for example?

It's all about me, my music. I have spent so many years in the studio looking for my sound. I think I have achieved it.
Do you think you finally found your sound as you say, or maybe you already had it from the beginning but you needed more confidence or experience to bring it forward?
I think the difficulty was really to find it, to create it. I've opened for BB King, Guns' N Roses, Slipknot, Jeff Beck... That's how I ended up finding my sound, first on stage. I had to refine it to put it on a CD, and that was something very different for me. It has taken years of experience. It also comes from encounters I've made over the years. Now I produce and co-produce my own work. That's where it started to change because I had the experience to record and produce my own sound. I needed to mature it and develop it myself. I think that's how I caught some people's attention.
I think it's very interesting, but what differences do you make between the studio version and the live version of your sound?
I would say that on stage, I can play soft and then louder. I can play a clean sound and then hit my distortion pedal on the chorus to give a dirtier sound. Doing that in the studio doesn't work. In the studio, you have to add layers of guitars to make it sound thicker. It takes years to understand that. I come from the scene. I come from jam sessions, from blues. I used to play  gigs in bars for 3 hours. We don't play the same way in the studio.

Isn't it a bit tricky in a way? Because you can add 50 or 100 layers of guitar in the studio. You must know Devin Townsend for whom it's a trademark in a way. How do you translate that on stage?
I come from the Seattle scene, and for me, musicality is the most important thing. Layering tracks on top of each other is not my style. I wanted this album to be as unrefined as possible. You can't necessarily capture what you do on stage perfectly, but that's the beauty of concerts. A concert reminds you of what's on the album, but it's not the album. That's what live shows are all about!
In our previous interview, we had drawn a parallel between Bruce Springsteen and you. You said that for you, Springsteen embodied industrial America while you embody black America. Do you think it's important for artists these days to play roles like that, at a very high level of commitment?
No, I don't think so. For me, it's important to talk about his story and his experiences. But I don't think the role of artists is to be a political activist. I think it's important for some people, but for me, as an artist, it's important to talk about what I perceive. I don't want to fight against anything actively, I'd rather have people think about the idea of fighting against something. The question is how we can proactively move forward. I'm trying to raise people' s curiosity.
To get to the heart of the matter, 'Mercy' is a very strong track because it's about George Floyd. Do you think that this song could have changed some mentalities, or that it will have allowed a certain awareness?
Ayron: A lot of people make the connection with George Floyd, but I wasn't talking about him in particular. I'm really talking about my brothers, about people in general. If 'Mercy' was the hit that it was, I think it was because I didn't speak as a black American but rather as a human being observing man's blackness. It really resonated for people.
But on the other hand, aren't you frustrated by the fact that nothing has changed over the years?
Yes, of course it's frustrating. But the only way to get rid of these things is to make people more aware.

You're totally right, but you elected Barack Obama, and then after that, there was Donald Trump. A lot of people from an outside perspective wondered what was going on. It's as if we moved forward only to move backward. That's why I bring up this notion of frustration. Basically, nothing seems to have changed.
You know, people are afraid of death. That's what people are afraid of. If you get past that concept, there's no fear. If you raise your consciousness, you don't get that fear anymore, that's what I mean, and for me that's the most important thing. That's how we evolve as human beings. In America and in the rest of the world, there are different levels of consciousness. We will be able to measure the progress we have made once we reach a new level of consciousness.



Baptized In Muddy Waters' is a poignant track that mixes blues, rock and a bit of soul for a successful result. Do you consider yourself as an heir of the musicians of this scene who revolutionized the music despite complex backgrounds?
I think I bear the heritage of blues music, of course. Baptized In Muddy Waters' is a song I wrote when I was 19, in a restaurant in America. I hated my life at that time. This song is about my rebirth. At that time, I was juggling with two jobs to make a living. This song is about my evolution through music. And it is indeed a tribute that I pay in this song, a tribute to the blues, but more generally a tribute to the great figures of the music which appeared before me.

Take Me Away' is the most rocking track of the album, with an almost metal touch, even. Why a song like that?
I think it has to do with my rocker background. A song like 'Take Me Away' really makes sense live. I'm from Seattle which is the birthplace of rock and grunge.
We were talking about the fact that you had found your own sound at the beginning of this interview, but this mix, this balance of the genres that you propose, is it a wish from your part, or is it something natural for you?
I think it's natural. I think when I was growing up, I was very influenced by all these musical styles.


There are some music giants that influence you like Michael Jackson, Lenny Kravitz, Jimi Hendrix, Muddy Waters... Do you think that in the new generation of musicians, some of them will be the new legends of tomorrow, or do you think that we won't replace those figures that I have mentioned?
I think there are rock stars in any generation. If that's the role I have to play one day, I'll play it. Anyway, I hope I will be able to help some people with my music.
You seem to be very wise and down to earth. Has it always been the case?
Oh no! But I think it was necessary for me to get to this point.
In a way, you have lived several lives. Was there a turning point that brought you to this point?
Mushrooms! (Laughs). No, more seriously, if you've seen the movie "Slumdog Millionaire," when people go through difficult or traumatic things in their lives, it gives them a sense of wisdom. I've seen a lot of things, I've had traumas too. It gave me a little perspective on my life.

Today, do you feel at peace with yourself? Do you feel like you really belong in this society?
Who knows? That's an interesting question. At peace with myself, yes. I'm not perfect, I do things I shouldn't, I'm aware of that. I'm happy with the place I stand right now, but I still have a lot of things to live for so I'll keep moving forward.

You go far in the fusion and in the variety of the broached genres. Do you think that with 'Child Of The State', you bring rock back into the 21st century by giving it back the panache it had in the 50s or 60s, when it was played by the founding fathers of rock?
That's an interesting question. Am I bringing rock back to the 21st century? I think I'm just a medium through which music can be expressed. I try to pay a tribute to those who came before me and allowed me to have the life I have. Rock has given me something, and I try to give it back by sharing it with people. It's a symbiosis. I am the reincarnation of something that once existed.
The songs on this album were written in the fall of 2019. Does that mean you have new songs ready to be recorded for a future album?
I have a lot more songs, yes!

And do you feel any kind of pressure after being acclaimed for the release of this album?
No! I'm not trying to outdo myself, I just want to do what I've always done. I'm a music fan, so I'm going to pay  a tribute to the things I love. Making good music for good people.
Thank you very much!
Thank you so much!

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